# 77 piston.....Top is the 77mm 1200cc 40hp (actually
1192cc) piston setting in a stock 85.5mm 1600cc cylinder to show
the size difference of the smaller 1965 Bug Motor to the largest
Stock bore VW Bug Motor. *Order
Note: the size is normally stamped
on the top of the Piston. This 77mm Piston is stamped 76.96
# 83 piston.....Next row right is 83mm
1500cc piston (actual 1493cc) setting in the same 85.5mm 1600cc
cylinder. *Order
...83mm piston & Cylinder kits were offered as 1200cc Big Bore
Kits increasing it to 1385cc. but these used a smaller wrist pin
diameter.
# 85.5 piston.....Second row left shows
the stock 1600cc 85.5mm piston (actual 1585cc) in a 92mm cylinder.
Weight of Piston, piston rings & Pin = 513 grams "Mahle"
forged & 563/588 grams for cast
Top of Cylinder OD = 93.8mm Bottom of Cylinder
OD = 90mm. *Order
#87mm piston & cylinders ( not shown ) give slightly
thicker cylinder wall thickness and only .039" smaller then
the 88's below (lately the 87mm P&C kits have been
considerable less expensive then the 88's)
Top of Cylinder OD = 93.8mm Bottom of Cylinder
OD = 90mm. *Order
# 88 piston.....Lower left is the 88mm
piston that is normally called the 1700cc Kit (actual 1679cc)
Is the largest P&C kit that can be used without machining the
case and heads. Weight of Piston, piston rings & Pin =
654 grams "cast" Top of
Cylinder OD = 93.8mm Bottom of Cylinder OD =
90mm
87's & 88's also get a bum rap when the first time engine builder
fails to consider that the compression ratio rises as the bore
increases. Best keep the compression on the low side. We built a
lot of motors with slip in 88's and never had problems if kept in
tune. *Order
.....90mm and 90.5mm pistons & cylinders are
produced in several configurations and require the case and heads
to be machined. The most popular have the same outside diameter as
the 92's thus giving a thicker cylinder wall thickness. Weight
of Piston, piston rings & Pin 90.5mm = 542 grams "Mahle"
forged
Top of Cylinder OD = 98mm Bottom
of Cylinder OD = 96mm. *Order
# 92 piston.....Center is the 92mm piston
(1835cc) setting in a 94mm cylinder. The 1835cc motor is very
popular and for years was considered to produce the most H.P. per Dollar
92mm P&C along with the 82mm crank will produce the 2180cc
motor that has become most popular.
Just be sure the case is step bored and #3 top cylinder stud is
deep sunk for maximum strength.
Weight of Piston, piston rings & Pin = 569 grams "Mahle"
forged
92's also get a bum rap when the first time
engine builder fails to consider that the compression ratio rises
as the bore increases. Best keep the compression on the low
side.
We built a lot of 1835cc motors and ran our personal camper
bus about 90,000 miles before rust got the better of it. It is
twice as important to keep a big motor in tune and refrain from
lugging on hard pulls.
Top of Cylinder OD = 98mm Bottom of Cylinder OD
= 96mm. *Order
# 94 piston.....Lower Right is presently the largest
Piston and Cylinder Kit used in the type 1 Bug Motor. This kit due
to its size can only be used with the small 8mm cylinder studs.
Most builders will recommend the aftermarket 8mm chrome molly head
studs. Some engine builders are now cutting the cylinders down to
the 92mm dia. where they fit into the case in order to have more
cylinder seating surface and more metal around the case studs. We recommend
giving this some serious thought before going this way. 94
slip in's
Note: When cutting the 94 cylinder sleeve down to 92 dimensions,
the case can no longer be step bored, this straight cut was not
good when running 92's and hardily the way to go with 94's
The case gets very thin behind #3 cylinder even when it is step
bored. Some builders weld up this area behind number three
cylinder, even though bigger problems accrue with case warping.
Be very careful when cutting heads for the 94's. Do
to the 94's large diameter we recommend leaving the .060
compression step in the heads similar to the late Dual Port heads
unless special heads are used.
Weight of Piston, piston rings & Pin = 624 grams "Mahle"
forged. Top of Cylinder OD =
101.1mm Bottom of Cylinder OD = 97.25mm. *Order

Cast
piston on left and forged piston on the
right.
Which is best for you.?
Don't assume that forged pistons is the way to go, just because most most
high dollar drag motors use them and since they normally cost more,
they
must be better then cast pistons.
Uniform wall thickness in pistons is very very important.
When the piston heats up, the thickness and mass of the piston
determines how the piston expands.
The more uniform the material thickness then the more uniform it expands.
The large lug of metal on right "B"
tends to transfer a lot of heat to the pin boss and causes the
piston to expand out of round. Also the excessive thickness of the
metal at "A" in right photo is also undesirable but
because the piston is forged this can not be avoided. The metal density
of the ring land and the dome or top of the piston is the main strong point of
forged pistons. When a piston is forged the inside design is
limited because the one piece core must be forced into the metal billet
and then pulled straight out. You end up with lots of taper from
the ring area to the bottom of the skirt. Poor design but the
metal is a lot stronger where the cast piston is the best design
but cast metal has less strength. On the left at point "A" the separation of
the dome (where all the heat is) and the pin boss helps the piston
expand in a more uniform manner. When you mike the piston diameter
you will notice it is ground like an egg so as it expands it
becomes round at operating temperature. The Key word here
is operating temperature
The big drawback to any Air Cooled motor is
keeping the operating temperature constant. It's a lot easer to
control the heat with water then with air & oil. Controlling
this heat gets harder as HP increases.
Notice that ribs "C" can
be cast in to help expansion and give more strength were needed.
Due to the 5 piece collapsible mold, the skirt thickness can
also be controlled. Section #1 is removed letting the #2 mold
sections be removed which in turn allows the two #3 sections to
slide to the center and extracted. The cast metal is not as strong
but the design flexibility can greatly improve the strength. If
your running 14 to 1 compression or Nitrous then the extra
strength of the Forged piston top is needed, but for the typical
street motor running 7 or 8 to 1 compression, you would be better
off with the Cast. Some of the forged pistons advertise the
black anodized finish or graphite coating on the skirt, saying it is a harder surface
and reduces piston seizure. Yes the anodized surface is harder
& yes the piston will tolerate a few more degrees of heat
before sticking. But for all you builders out there that tear down hundreds
of motors you know it's the ring land that dictates when the
Piston & Cylinders need replacing. And if dirt entered the
cylinders do to faulty air filters then nothing will keep it from
wearing out.
If the Piston sticks in the cylinder then you have other
problems and a few more degrees before it sticks, only means you
will get 20 feet further down the track before disaster strikes.
We anodized Go-Kart pistons 30 years ago and it helped or sales
but little else. It's like the farmer said, when he chrome plated
his manure spreader, It sure looks nice but it still does the same
thing it was designed to do. Rings: If you need to
replace your piston rings it is best to measure the
width/thickness as different manufactures use different ring
width. Do you need to replace pistons & cylinders or will
rings do the job. *click
here. VW cylinders are made of very good material so
they have very little in common with most American daily drivers.
Normally the wider top rings last longer and do a better job of
sealing, plus get rid of more heat. But the wider the ring the
more drag ( less HP ) and longer break in time. Some chrome rings
never break in properly. The cast rings with a good air filter
seem to work best in the VW. Top rings will have a chamfer on the
inside and is always toward the top. 2ed ring will have a chamfer
on the outside diameter and is toward the bottom. Oil control
rings come in the cast or steel segmented type. Formula
"V" racers only use the cast oil control rings when only
performance is considered. Air cooled Pistons and Cylinders are a
lot different then those used in water cooled motors, so don't
think water cooled when working with the air cooled motor. The
ring gap on the top ring is .012"/.018" and wear limit
of .035" The ring side clearance will tell you if
rings need replacing or if your wasting your money.
If you drop a fan belt then overheating can collapsed the rings
and re-ringing might be needed but normally your VW will need a
P&C kit, not just rings.
** New Aluminum 1600cc or Super Case for
85.5, 90.5 / 92 and 94mm cylinders & stroker cranks up to
86mm... *price
& info To convert mm to inches
> multiply mm x .03937 = inches or 85.5mm x .03937 =
3.366 inches
To convert inches to mm > multiply inches x 25.4 =
mm or 3.700" x .25.4 = 93.98 or 94 mm
**-- Cylinder Base Shims for 90.5, 92 and 94mm ...See
#33 -- price
& info.
Piston Pin clearance in
bushing = .0004-.0008
--VW
Piston ring compressor "State size of Bore"
"Quote"
Heat piston to 176' F (until piston is to warm to
touch and Pin will slip right in. ...... Wrist Pin
Teflon Buttons... order |